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CARL BARAT

Carl Barat
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CARL BARAT



26 Sunday 26th September 2010
Last week, Don't Panic sat down with a glass of wine in a shabbily decorated gastropub near Queen's Park, across a badly scratched table from Carl Barât. In the past year he's worked his fingers to the bone, working on project after project, and picking himself up after what he felt was one of the worst years of his life.
 
Starting with your solo album, what was the reason you wanted to break away?
I'd just kinda had it with bands, really. It was a challenge for me, more important than making music. I just had to get out of it, really. You know, I had a year of just doing nothing, and I'm getting payback for it now with all the work I'm doing. I was just depressed, and I realised I had to move on. Then I realised that if I write introspectively about everything that's happened over the last year, I've got a lot.
 
So that was your inspiration for the album? It is slightly different from what you've done in the past.
I just needed to get out of the comfort zone. Like, having loud guitars, it kind of disguises and masks the voice, and I thought it'd be really nice to... Well, it was like taking all the smoke out of a room, you know? Suddenly I realised what I was recording with, the materials, the instruments and just the colours and timbres and grooves and flow of the music.
 
Do you think you'll ever go back to writing with other people? Whether with the same people you were with before, or maybe with someone entirely new.
Yeah, I mean I did all the writing on this album, and that's, well that's a pretty great thing. I really just got the confidence to start writing on my own.
 
You like the independence?
I do, but you know, what comes with that is you're kinda accountable for everything that's written. If anything's bad, it's all on you.
 
You tour starts in a month, on October 15. Do you enjoy tours?
Yeah, well I've been on a lot of them. Yeah I really love touring.
 
Excited about doing it on your own?
Kinda scared. It's my first solo tour. I've done a couple of gigs but to be honest I'm not really sure what I'm doing up there yet. Hopefully it will come. It's exciting. You're basically on your own up there, everyone's watching you.

 

What do you most enjoy and hate about touring?
If you manage to keep some level of sobriety, and you're alright the next morning, that's the main thing really. I hate waking up when I haven't managed to get to bed on time. Don't like getting up for work in the morning then. Hangovers, that's a really big indicator isn't it? It's quite obvious when you're on stage.
 
Do you have any sort of rituals for before a live show?
I used to have all sorts, but then I found out when someone says 'you're on now', then I wouldn't have time to, you know, hop, skip, jump, run around, touch your toes, sing a song, that would be silly. And then bravely one night I decided to do none of my rituals, and it was all alright.
 
Do you remember the first gig you went to?
Oh yeah. First big gig was Rage Against the Machine at Reading. It was absolutely amazing.
 
What was it like comparing that to then playing the festival yourself?
Yeah well I definitely felt great playing for all those people. The thought that we could be their Rage, or something.
 
In your book, threepenny memoir, you talk about your love of London. Do you remember your first visit and why you fell in love with the city?
I used to visit when I was a kid, visited my great-grandmother. That was all an adventure, I just saw her house as this massive castle in the sky, I'd never seen anything like it before. I loved how everywhere we drove through was different and just so full of life. It's been the same ever since really. I'm sure it's the same all over the world, but everywhere has a different culture. I still feel homesick, but I find you feel a different kind depending on where you are, because everywhere has something different to offer.
 
You also talk about your heroes in the book. For example?
Charlie Chaplin is the biggest one. Everything he did really came from a place of love, he really believed in what he was doing. He brought so much to the world, laughter and... If you watch his films, everyone thinks he's just being kicked up the arse, but if you watch the features, there's so much more there, and it's really beautiful. I can't think of one that doesn't have a teary moment in it as well, you can't help but be touched by that. And also, he was such a performer. He had such spirit, acrobatic and disciplined, his body was a machine. He directed all his films, and wrote the music, and starred in them. Even when he was up against Hilter, the just put it into theatre and that's quite a feat.
 
Do you feel like you're trying to do the same sort of thing with your music now?
I do believe that music is a form of purity and love, and I'll do my best to keep it up, work it out as best I can. If everyone has a part in this world, I want my place to be in making music.
 
 
You've been involved with the film Rime of the Modern Mariner. How did you get involved with that initially?
It was just a bit of a laugh. We were at the pub drinking and talking like old men, how the times were changing so fast and it would never be the same again. So we thought we'd get a snapshot of this before it changes.
 
What was experiencing all this first-hand like?
Unfortunately I didn't get to go on the boat, I was in a play. The music hall was amazing, they have gigs there sometimes. Not very much though. The committee is a bit arsey about it all, 'you can't touch this, you can't touch that'. We met the old guys in the mariner club as well. Buggers. They were cool though, kind guys. My granddad used to work down the docks. My grandma as well actually.
 
So you have that background, you got where they were coming from?
Yeah, although I seem to romanticise it more than they like. They're like 'No no it weren't that hard' and there's me going 'nah, it was it was'.
 
You talk about your love of London in your book and then you’re involved with this film that takes you through an almost forgotten history of London. It ties together quite nicely.
Yeah, I should be careful really I’m gonna be labelled as some sort of Londonphile. It’s hard not to be.
 
Going back to your tour, you’ve been all over the world. This is just a UK tour?
No, also Germany, Spain, France. Ireland? Does that count as Europe?
 
Well you’ve got a lot going on. You’ve got a book, a debut solo album and singles, a tour, a film and a baby all coming along at around the same time.
Well yeah it’s been quite busy. I guess this is my penance for sitting in a room doing drugs for a year.
 
It’s an autobiography?
It’s not quite as lofty and pompous as an autobiography. It’s more like my account of the last 10 years. To be honest whenever I thought about it I couldn’t make head nor tail of it, I couldn’t fathom it. And whenever I searched for it it was presented to me in other people’s opinions and accounts. So I straightened it out and did it myself The best and worst times.
 
What would you say the worst time was?
Quite a lot really. I guess Pete going to prison was pretty hard, I felt kinda responsible.
 
What about the best time?
Dunno really. I guess, falling in love again, and becoming a father. Quite recent. I guess this past one would be my favourite year. Funny how it finds you. This dad thing has turned everything around for me.
 
What about best times in your musical career?
I guess writing this album by myself was pretty great. There’s a track called ‘So long my lover’, it’s about ending a relationship but is still upbeat. I started writing the album all melancholy and from a really like suicidal, lonely, self-harming place and after a while I thought why am I writing about such depressing things? I got bored with miserable, no-one wants to hear that shit, and I started to get a bit more up-beat.
 
Threepenny Memoir and the single Run with the Boys are both out September 30, Carl Barāt's eponymous debut solo album is out October 4.

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  • Guest: fuckajesus
    Tue 19 - Oct - 2010, 12:35
    He seems to tolerate your asinine questions rather well

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